and president obama, senator obama you 2008. he thought debt was bad, out of control spending was a bad thing. listen to him. >> the problem is is that the way bush has done it over the last eight years is to take out a credit card from the bank of china in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from 5 trillion dollars the first 42 presidents, 43, add 4 trillion dollars by his lonesome, so we now have over 9 trillion dollars of debt that we are going to have to pay back, $30,000 for every man, woman and child, that's irresponsible, it's unpatriotic. >> ainsley: saying 9 trillion dollars in debt is not responsible. do you know what the national debt is now? 16.4 trillion almost double. >> clayton: he blamed president bush all my his lonesome, but president obama you put 5 trillion in your debt and on the way to 10 trillion. and you want to talk about unpatriotic and dangerous. >> clayton: both parties don't cut government. neither cut government since the 1950's and when are we going to get serious about cutting t